Comments on: Zen and the Art of Software Design http://nolancaudill.com/index.php/2007/11/27/zen-and-the-art-of-software-design/ thoughts and whatnot Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jeff Croft http://nolancaudill.com/index.php/2007/11/27/zen-and-the-art-of-software-design/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Jeff Croft Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:52:01 +0000 http://nolancaudill.com/index.php/2007/11/27/zen-and-the-art-of-software-design/#comment-12 > vi(m) versus emacs would have been a much better example and one which definitely falls under the category of “ultimately not that important.” Amen to that. :) > vi(m) versus emacs would have been a much better example and one which definitely falls under the category of “ultimately not that important.”

Amen to that. :)

]]> By: nolan http://nolancaudill.com/index.php/2007/11/27/zen-and-the-art-of-software-design/comment-page-1/#comment-11 nolan Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:50:25 +0000 http://nolancaudill.com/index.php/2007/11/27/zen-and-the-art-of-software-design/#comment-11 Jeff, first off, thanks for dropping by! It was your post and the subsequent comments about the benefits of CSS frameworks that inspired this post. You are probably right with Django and Rails not being the greatest examples of feuding camps. I went back and read a few of the posts that I thought were Rails vs Django oriented and upon second reading, it looks like I may have read too much into them. Luckily, the theme of the post is not lost. vi(m) versus emacs would have been a much better example and one which definitely falls under the category of "ultimately not that important." Jeff, first off, thanks for dropping by! It was your post and the subsequent comments about the benefits of CSS frameworks that inspired this post.

You are probably right with Django and Rails not being the greatest examples of feuding camps. I went back and read a few of the posts that I thought were Rails vs Django oriented and upon second reading, it looks like I may have read too much into them. Luckily, the theme of the post is not lost.

vi(m) versus emacs would have been a much better example and one which definitely falls under the category of “ultimately not that important.”

]]> By: Jeff Croft http://nolancaudill.com/index.php/2007/11/27/zen-and-the-art-of-software-design/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Jeff Croft Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:22:32 +0000 http://nolancaudill.com/index.php/2007/11/27/zen-and-the-art-of-software-design/#comment-10 Great post, and I agree with it completely. I'm unsure, though, that Django and Rails is a very good example. In my view, the Django and Rails camps are quite friendly to one another, even going so far as to host events together (see 'Snakes and Rubies'). The creators of both projects have publicly praised the other ("If there was no Rails, I'd probably be using Django," and vice-versa). If anything, Django vs. Rails seems to be a shining example of how to properly have a friendly rivalry in our industry without it devolving to personal attacks and boring pedantic debates over stuff that is ultimately not that important. But it's certainly possible that there has been nasty conflict that I simply haven't been privy to. But you're totally right with the message of your post. I love the line: "Rightness is only determined by what creates tranquility in the person using the tool." Beautiful. Well-done. Great post, and I agree with it completely. I’m unsure, though, that Django and Rails is a very good example. In my view, the Django and Rails camps are quite friendly to one another, even going so far as to host events together (see ‘Snakes and Rubies’). The creators of both projects have publicly praised the other (“If there was no Rails, I’d probably be using Django,” and vice-versa).

If anything, Django vs. Rails seems to be a shining example of how to properly have a friendly rivalry in our industry without it devolving to personal attacks and boring pedantic debates over stuff that is ultimately not that important. But it’s certainly possible that there has been nasty conflict that I simply haven’t been privy to.

But you’re totally right with the message of your post. I love the line: “Rightness is only determined by what creates tranquility in the person using the tool.” Beautiful. Well-done.

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